Current economic woes

[heX]

We've been around 4.08+ for a while. i disagree with brandon. oil companies have gone out of their way to avoid more refineries. it creates an artificial demand, allowing them to make more profit.

If I had it my way, we'd drill our own oil, as well as build more refineries. I want to get off our dependency of oil. if the only way that this can be done is by conserving how much is used, so be it. I would rather explore other avenues on how to push innovation ahead in reusable resources, but we can discuss that after we stop funding the economy of other countries ahead of our own.

I want to have a cleaner environment just as much as most people and more than quite a few. Over paying foreign countries and big businesses is not the way to do it. For the most part I agree with liss, johnny, raub, and all the other people that think we are wasteful and it needs to change. I just think a you are considering the wrong tools to do it.

Originally Posted by liss

Oil companies are also responsible for the failure to make fuel cell powered vehicles a daily American tool.

its not their job retard

[raublekick]

Originally Posted by heX

its not their job retard

not their job, but they are still partly responsible. surely the oil companies have a hand in keeping alternate resources held back, and they have patents that prevent certain batteries from being used.

i don't think it's really fair to say that any of us are considering the wrong tools since... none of us really offered anything other than economic models and reduction of our wasteful lifestyles.

however, i don't really think things like ethanol and stuff like that are really a good thing. an alternate fuel that is harder to make and less efficient than gasoline isn't a very good alternative.

[heX]

Unless I missed out, I thought we were discussing the pros and cons of drilling our own oil. I thought johnny and liss were making the point that it is a pro that high prices keep us from consuming more, and a con of drilling our own is that we would use more. Which unless I misunderstood them, I would consider over paying for oil, the wrong tool for managing consumption.

Back to the original discussion:
I only see one real reason to not drill for oil in America, and that is to preserving wild life habitats. So my question would have to be to all Americans: Why are you ok if other people do it, and you will pay them top dollar to ensure they do, with no morale dilemma. But you consider drilling our own oil an outrageous proposition?

If there are other reasons not to drill our own oil, I guess I don't see them. Since using our own oil does not = using more. However it does = more American jobs and lower gas prices.