so, uh... i wanna go back to linux - Page 10

johnny · 05-05-2007, 05:51 PM

i still don't see the attraction of compiz/beryl...

raublekick · 05-05-2007, 06:12 PM

yeah i still agree, it's not too useful yet. however, i am too lazy to remove awn from my startup apps, and it requires compiz or beryl...

raublekick · 08-29-2007, 09:41 PM

god dammit, i have become so accustomed to AWN, i don't think i can go back.

</official johnny call>

johnny · 09-01-2007, 10:48 AM

ah, the linux thread..

a while back while i was using gnome for a bit i thought i'd try awn, but i couldn't get beryl working 'cause my shitty onboard graphics card wasn't playing nice. but i've pretty much settled in with nice, simple tiling window managers and more text/console-based solutions. i was using wmii for a bit, and then took the plunge and tried out dwm; it's pretty much perfect. i find that this is the best sort of environment for me to work productively in ('course that's just me..

)

two screens: click and click again

also: how come yer never around ubuntuforums? sometimes it's tough to keep up with threads you've posted in because it's so busy, but still.. it's a pretty decent community to try to keep up with.

raublekick · 09-01-2007, 01:08 PM

yeah i haven't visited there in eons. pretty much i only went there to check the screenshots thread, hah! no, it's a great place, but i just haven't had time to keep up with it much. after spending 8 hours in front of a computer at work, i try to minimize the amount of time spent in front of one at home.

good to see my johnny call worked.

raublekick · 09-09-2007, 05:15 PM

fuck awn! i disabled the desktop effects stuff and am back to just straight metacity. ah, my computer is responsive again! i still miss AWN, but i can deal without it if it means that X won't lock up when i mess with pygame stuff.

johnny · 09-14-2007, 07:06 AM

yea, awn is dumb! you could use wbar as a launcher kinda thing..

raublekick · 09-14-2007, 07:02 PM

hey, wbar looks pretty sweet. i'm going to build it right now and give it a shot. how do you find out about these things? i mean, i don't browse many linux forums anymore so i guess that's a big out for me.

johnny · 09-15-2007, 10:15 AM

i think it's mostly from the arch forums; it's much easier to follow than ubuntu forums, 'cause there is less traffic. you can almost always find about something new in the screenshot thread or user contributions forum.

also, doing searches in the aur usually turns up stuff i've never heard of (which may or may not be useful

).

raublekick · 10-09-2007, 06:03 PM

so how about judd resigning from Arch, eh? pretty sad news, hopefully it keeps on keepin' on.

johnny · 10-09-2007, 10:07 PM

yes, that was interesting -- i think things will be okay. it seems like he was too busy to be involved anyways. and the guy who's been appointed as arch's new "leader", from what i can tell, is a good choice.

so are you gonna upgrade to gutsy when it's released?

raublekick · 10-09-2007, 11:18 PM

of course

honestly though, i have had pretty much 0 problems with feisty. it's kinda sad in a good way, because with every new release of ubuntu, i have had less and less of a real need to upgrade.

johnny · 10-10-2007, 07:56 PM

i guess you've got to if you want up-to-date package repositories. that's one thing that's handy about a rolling release..

i've been getting curious to try out gentoo again when they do their next release (2007.1, which i think will be late november), but i keep trying to tell myself it won't be worth the headaches. i really have no problems in arch, and if i can exercise some will-power and resist the urge to tinker with other stuff i don't think i'd have to do a fresh install ever again. i guess when everything "just works" i get bored, lol.

raublekick · 10-20-2007, 08:07 PM

gutsy is pretty sweet

still can't get my second monitor working with my laptop, but it's not totally necessary. actually i probably COULD get it if i felt like messing with xorg.conf right now, but i don't. i managed to get it working except the resolution on my laptop wouldn't go to the right resolution.

Mr Biglesworth · 10-21-2007, 09:52 AM

Alright dawgs, I just took my first plunge into linux. Installed Ubuntu on a partition on my Dell laptop, then upgraded to Gutsy Gibbon. Eventually I'd be happy to get rid of the windows partition at some point but i haven't got my wireless card working yet and I still need to find applications to replace my favourite ones in windows. Also I'm completely clueless and don't know anything about linux, but I'm glad I've made this move.

raublekick · 10-21-2007, 10:15 AM

What kind of wireless card do you have? If it doesn't work out of the box then the driver either doesn't exist (possibly could use ndiswrapper + the Windows driver) or it's just restricted so that it can't be distributed by Ubuntu.

Try going to System -> Administration -> Restricted Drivers Manager and see if it shows up in there.

What applications are you trying to replace?

Mr Biglesworth · 10-25-2007, 09:47 AM

Alriight, I'm online. I was using restricted drivers manager but it didn't seem to work, then I tried it again last night and it did work.
The only app I really use a lot is Microsoft OneNote which I keep my research organized in, which is pretty valuable to me.
Anyway I'm really liking it so far. I've been playing with compiz and I think its nifty. I like the overall ubuntu system, though I really don't know my way around it yet. There's been some things that run buggy, like the help system and network controls which freeze up. But I'm going to stick with it because I'd like to eventually switch entirely to open source. Someday I'd like to be in a position to advocate for open source software in the 3rd world so I'd better start getting comfortable with it.

raublekick · 10-25-2007, 05:57 PM

I've never really used OneNote, so I'm not sure what all it does, but if organization's your thing, check out Tomboy. It's a very simplistic wiki-based note taking app. You can make a note called "Groceries", that lists groceries you need, and then make tasklist note with a task "1. Get groceries", and the word "groceries" is automatically linked to your list of groceries.

johnny · 10-25-2007, 07:44 PM

i just googled a bit about onenote, and i'm not so sure that tomboy matches up. tomboy is just way simpler.. but! you should check out basKet, 'cause i think that's the closest linux alternative you're going to find right now. it's in gutsy's universe repository, so it will be simple to install from synaptic. the only shitty thing is that (i assume) you're using gnome.. and basket is a kde application, which means synaptic will have to install a bunch of dependencies (kde libraries, the qt graphic toolkit, etc.). it should work just fine, but it will look different ('cause it's using qt, rather than gtk)..

Mr Biglesworth · 10-25-2007, 09:02 PM

Thanks Johnny, I'll install it later and see if I can feel at home with it.
Also sorry for not getting back to your e-mail.. i guess i'm bad like that.

05-05-2007, 06:12 PM	#182
raublekick Moderator Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Lancastuh, PA Posts: 1,678	yeah i still agree, it's not too useful yet. however, i am too lazy to remove awn from my startup apps, and it requires compiz or beryl... __________________ http://www.good-evil.net slap that bitch, sell her coke

08-29-2007, 09:41 PM	#183
raublekick Moderator Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Lancastuh, PA Posts: 1,678	god dammit, i have become so accustomed to AWN, i don't think i can go back. </official johnny call> __________________ http://www.good-evil.net slap that bitch, sell her coke

09-01-2007, 10:48 AM	#184
johnny Moderator Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Upper Canada Posts: 1,276	ah, the linux thread.. a while back while i was using gnome for a bit i thought i'd try awn, but i couldn't get beryl working 'cause my shitty onboard graphics card wasn't playing nice. but i've pretty much settled in with nice, simple tiling window managers and more text/console-based solutions. i was using wmii for a bit, and then took the plunge and tried out dwm; it's pretty much perfect. i find that this is the best sort of environment for me to work productively in ('course that's just me.. ) two screens: click and click again also: how come yer never around ubuntuforums? sometimes it's tough to keep up with threads you've posted in because it's so busy, but still.. it's a pretty decent community to try to keep up with. Last edited by johnny : 09-01-2007 at 10:53 AM.

09-01-2007, 01:08 PM	#185
raublekick Moderator Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Lancastuh, PA Posts: 1,678	yeah i haven't visited there in eons. pretty much i only went there to check the screenshots thread, hah! no, it's a great place, but i just haven't had time to keep up with it much. after spending 8 hours in front of a computer at work, i try to minimize the amount of time spent in front of one at home. good to see my johnny call worked. __________________ http://www.good-evil.net slap that bitch, sell her coke

09-09-2007, 05:15 PM	#186
raublekick Moderator Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Lancastuh, PA Posts: 1,678	fuck awn! i disabled the desktop effects stuff and am back to just straight metacity. ah, my computer is responsive again! i still miss AWN, but i can deal without it if it means that X won't lock up when i mess with pygame stuff. __________________ http://www.good-evil.net slap that bitch, sell her coke

05-05-2007, 05:51 PM	#181
johnny Moderator Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Upper Canada Posts: 1,276	i still don't see the attraction of compiz/beryl...

09-14-2007, 07:06 AM	#187
johnny Moderator Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Upper Canada Posts: 1,276	yea, awn is dumb! you could use wbar as a launcher kinda thing..

09-14-2007, 07:02 PM	#188
raublekick Moderator Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Lancastuh, PA Posts: 1,678	hey, wbar looks pretty sweet. i'm going to build it right now and give it a shot. how do you find out about these things? i mean, i don't browse many linux forums anymore so i guess that's a big out for me. __________________ http://www.good-evil.net slap that bitch, sell her coke

09-15-2007, 10:15 AM	#189
johnny Moderator Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Upper Canada Posts: 1,276	i think it's mostly from the arch forums; it's much easier to follow than ubuntu forums, 'cause there is less traffic. you can almost always find about something new in the screenshot thread or user contributions forum. also, doing searches in the aur usually turns up stuff i've never heard of (which may or may not be useful ).

10-09-2007, 06:03 PM	#190
raublekick Moderator Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Lancastuh, PA Posts: 1,678	so how about judd resigning from Arch, eh? pretty sad news, hopefully it keeps on keepin' on. __________________ http://www.good-evil.net slap that bitch, sell her coke

10-09-2007, 10:07 PM	#191
johnny Moderator Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Upper Canada Posts: 1,276	yes, that was interesting -- i think things will be okay. it seems like he was too busy to be involved anyways. and the guy who's been appointed as arch's new "leader", from what i can tell, is a good choice. so are you gonna upgrade to gutsy when it's released?

10-09-2007, 11:18 PM	#192
raublekick Moderator Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Lancastuh, PA Posts: 1,678	of course honestly though, i have had pretty much 0 problems with feisty. it's kinda sad in a good way, because with every new release of ubuntu, i have had less and less of a real need to upgrade. __________________ http://www.good-evil.net slap that bitch, sell her coke

10-10-2007, 07:56 PM	#193
johnny Moderator Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Upper Canada Posts: 1,276	i guess you've got to if you want up-to-date package repositories. that's one thing that's handy about a rolling release.. i've been getting curious to try out gentoo again when they do their next release (2007.1, which i think will be late november), but i keep trying to tell myself it won't be worth the headaches. i really have no problems in arch, and if i can exercise some will-power and resist the urge to tinker with other stuff i don't think i'd have to do a fresh install ever again. i guess when everything "just works" i get bored, lol.

10-20-2007, 08:07 PM	#194
raublekick Moderator Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Lancastuh, PA Posts: 1,678	gutsy is pretty sweet still can't get my second monitor working with my laptop, but it's not totally necessary. actually i probably COULD get it if i felt like messing with xorg.conf right now, but i don't. i managed to get it working except the resolution on my laptop wouldn't go to the right resolution. __________________ http://www.good-evil.net slap that bitch, sell her coke

10-21-2007, 09:52 AM	#195
Mr Biglesworth Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: I live in London Posts: 862	Alright dawgs, I just took my first plunge into linux. Installed Ubuntu on a partition on my Dell laptop, then upgraded to Gutsy Gibbon. Eventually I'd be happy to get rid of the windows partition at some point but i haven't got my wireless card working yet and I still need to find applications to replace my favourite ones in windows. Also I'm completely clueless and don't know anything about linux, but I'm glad I've made this move.

10-21-2007, 10:15 AM	#196
raublekick Moderator Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Lancastuh, PA Posts: 1,678	What kind of wireless card do you have? If it doesn't work out of the box then the driver either doesn't exist (possibly could use ndiswrapper + the Windows driver) or it's just restricted so that it can't be distributed by Ubuntu. Try going to System -> Administration -> Restricted Drivers Manager and see if it shows up in there. What applications are you trying to replace? __________________ http://www.good-evil.net slap that bitch, sell her coke

10-25-2007, 09:47 AM	#197
Mr Biglesworth Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: I live in London Posts: 862	Alriight, I'm online. I was using restricted drivers manager but it didn't seem to work, then I tried it again last night and it did work. The only app I really use a lot is Microsoft OneNote which I keep my research organized in, which is pretty valuable to me. Anyway I'm really liking it so far. I've been playing with compiz and I think its nifty. I like the overall ubuntu system, though I really don't know my way around it yet. There's been some things that run buggy, like the help system and network controls which freeze up. But I'm going to stick with it because I'd like to eventually switch entirely to open source. Someday I'd like to be in a position to advocate for open source software in the 3rd world so I'd better start getting comfortable with it.

10-25-2007, 05:57 PM	#198
raublekick Moderator Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Lancastuh, PA Posts: 1,678	I've never really used OneNote, so I'm not sure what all it does, but if organization's your thing, check out Tomboy. It's a very simplistic wiki-based note taking app. You can make a note called "Groceries", that lists groceries you need, and then make tasklist note with a task "1. Get groceries", and the word "groceries" is automatically linked to your list of groceries. __________________ http://www.good-evil.net slap that bitch, sell her coke

10-25-2007, 07:44 PM	#199
johnny Moderator Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Upper Canada Posts: 1,276	i just googled a bit about onenote, and i'm not so sure that tomboy matches up. tomboy is just way simpler.. but! you should check out basKet, 'cause i think that's the closest linux alternative you're going to find right now. it's in gutsy's universe repository, so it will be simple to install from synaptic. the only shitty thing is that (i assume) you're using gnome.. and basket is a kde application, which means synaptic will have to install a bunch of dependencies (kde libraries, the qt graphic toolkit, etc.). it should work just fine, but it will look different ('cause it's using qt, rather than gtk)..

10-25-2007, 09:02 PM	#200
Mr Biglesworth Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: I live in London Posts: 862	Thanks Johnny, I'll install it later and see if I can feel at home with it. Also sorry for not getting back to your e-mail.. i guess i'm bad like that.

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