Are We Outraged Yet?

johnny · 06-29-2005, 07:05 PM

i'm sure it's an outrage, but i can't help but think, "it's just porno..."

Plain Old Jane · 06-29-2005, 07:45 PM

well porn is not the only thing that may be under this law, its pretty vague, it might be stretched into full mainstream media.

heX · 06-30-2005, 02:56 AM

i have two opinions

1.) this is bad because who the fuck wants to go through everything on their (porn) site and tag it with this info.

2.) this is good because this underage kiddie porn can finally be identified as being ilegal without having to track the girl down and finding out her age. if shes ilegal the site cant give her real info wich means it can be taken down. (not just kiddie porn but any pornography wich is ilegal under US law.)

thats how i understand it atleast, didnt read much of it i have a short attention span.

edit: i cant seem to find any links that validate this other than this kids live journal and links to adult sites and then some people put links to msn and usatoday articles about yahoo closing chat rooms named "13 year old girls for older men" located under the "educatoin" category wich didnt really seem to even begin to touch the subject of what this kid wrote in his lj.

Quote:

Originally Posted by usatoday.com

Yahoo requires users to agree not to "harm minors in any way" or make available any content that is "unlawful, harmful, threatening, abusive, harassing, tortuous, defamatory, vulgar, obscene, libelous, ... or otherwise objectionable."

doesnt seem like a new law to me seems like yahoo is enforcing there terms of service and if they only stop horny old men from exposing themselves on camera because they were forced to by the government doesn't seem like ive lost any "right" that i wanted in the first place.

this almost seems like anti-bush propaganda spawned in some porn community and made its way into a couple of crappy free speech sites news. i am admitting right now i have nothing to base this on and i am not saying it to be true. its just odd i cant find any main stream news outlet that mentions this. if you search the net you just find adult porn sites and less than mediocre free speech sites.

i cant stress enough that im not denying what he said to be true, im just asking if you could suply a more reliable source. all i can gather is that they were trying to pass a law but couldnt find alot of detail on exactly what it consisted of and couldnt find anyone complaining a unjust law was passed. i would like to read what the main stream media's take on this is.

Mike · 06-30-2005, 03:44 PM

I don't like any restrictions on private lives... but, any other sources on this besides somebody's livejournal? Fark hasn't had a single article about this and Google news turns up nothing... unless I just missed it or I'm searching the wrong thing.

though, the last line of your post ("the weapons litigations, patriot act, bans on gay equal rights, property siezure, and other constitutionally nixxed laws always been apathy") I think that they are anything but apathy. The movement of conservatives against judicial activism, most recently with the travesty surround the New London, CT case, has been strong ... and continues to get stronger... likewise with Weapons activists. Homosexual rights groups from the liberal side have also been very strong. The Patriot Act has yet to do anything, so most conservatives and liberals haven't taken action with it. Maybe I read the line wrong though... Are you saying that there hasn't been any action by conservatives for eliminating weapons restrictions, protecting property, and lessening the power of the Patriot act; and on the other side, there hasn't been action from liberals on gay rights and the Patriot Act?

Expect property rights and immigration policy to be the vote-deciders in 2008... The Liberals are losing in property rights, but interestingly, few well known Republican Conservatives have taken strong stances on immigration ... it's something that I'm horribly disapointed in with the well known members of my side of the fence.

heX · 06-30-2005, 03:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike

I don't like any restrictions on private lives... but, any other sources on this besides somebody's livejournal? Fark hasn't had a single article about this and Google news turns up nothing... unless I just missed it or I'm searching the wrong thing.

my point all summed up in a sensible mike kinda way

thecreeper · 07-02-2005, 01:38 AM

yeah, LJ isnt exactly the best news source, so i'm not sure i can take it too seriously right now.

heX · 07-02-2005, 04:38 AM

jep must be a big liar. what a liar. stupid lying jep.

06-29-2005, 07:45 PM	#2
Plain Old Jane i hate vagina Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 841	well porn is not the only thing that may be under this law, its pretty vague, it might be stretched into full mainstream media. __________________ Scary Monsters and Nice Sprites.

06-30-2005, 03:44 PM	#4
Mike Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 489	I don't like any restrictions on private lives... but, any other sources on this besides somebody's livejournal? Fark hasn't had a single article about this and Google news turns up nothing... unless I just missed it or I'm searching the wrong thing. though, the last line of your post ("the weapons litigations, patriot act, bans on gay equal rights, property siezure, and other constitutionally nixxed laws always been apathy") I think that they are anything but apathy. The movement of conservatives against judicial activism, most recently with the travesty surround the New London, CT case, has been strong ... and continues to get stronger... likewise with Weapons activists. Homosexual rights groups from the liberal side have also been very strong. The Patriot Act has yet to do anything, so most conservatives and liberals haven't taken action with it. Maybe I read the line wrong though... Are you saying that there hasn't been any action by conservatives for eliminating weapons restrictions, protecting property, and lessening the power of the Patriot act; and on the other side, there hasn't been action from liberals on gay rights and the Patriot Act? Expect property rights and immigration policy to be the vote-deciders in 2008... The Liberals are losing in property rights, but interestingly, few well known Republican Conservatives have taken strong stances on immigration ... it's something that I'm horribly disapointed in with the well known members of my side of the fence. Last edited by Mike : 06-30-2005 at 03:52 PM.

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thecreeper Administrator Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Lancaster, PA Posts: 2,330	yeah, LJ isnt exactly the best news source, so i'm not sure i can take it too seriously right now. __________________ good-evil.net - ahh, wade boggs...goes down smooth.

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06-29-2005, 07:05 PM	#1
johnny Moderator Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Upper Canada Posts: 1,276	i'm sure it's an outrage, but i can't help but think, "it's just porno..."

07-02-2005, 04:38 AM	#7
heX Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 937	jep must be a big liar. what a liar. stupid lying jep.